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Jeffrey L. Forgeng
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The Medieval Art of Swordsmanship: A Facsimile & Translation of Europe's Oldest Personal Combat Treatise, Ro Yal Armouries MS I.33 ハードカバー – 2003/9/1

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Jointly Published with the British Royal ArmouriesMedieval fighting has long been thought to be rough and untutored. Visiions of men madly slashing to and fro and hoping for the best still dominate not only popular culture but modern histories of fencing as well.In recent years, the survival of more than 175 fighting treatises from the Middle Ages and Renaissance has provided a whole generation of enthusiasts, scholars, reenactors and stage choreographers with a wealth of new information. This text represents the earliest known text on swordsmanship anywhere in the world. Royal Armouries MS I.33 presents a system of combat that is sophisticated and demonstrates the diffusion of fighting arts beyond the military classes. Within the manuscripts richly illustrated full-color illustrations lie still-potent demonstrates of sword techniques, surprisingly shown by a Priest and Scholar. Most surprisingly, however, is the presence of a woman practcing in the text, the only one illustrated in any European fighting treatise. This full color facsimile & translation has been long-awaited and promises to become an important resource for years to come.
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    172ページ
  2. 言語
    英語
  3. 出版社
    Chivalry Bookshelf
  4. 発売日
    2003/9/1
  5. 寸法
    22.23 x 1.91 x 28.58 cm
  6. ISBN-10
    1891448382
  7. ISBN-13
    978-1891448386
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  • 出版社 ‏ : ‎ Chivalry Bookshelf; New版 (2003/9/1)
  • 発売日 ‏ : ‎ 2003/9/1
  • 言語 ‏ : ‎ 英語
  • ハードカバー ‏ : ‎ 172ページ
  • ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 1891448382
  • ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-1891448386
  • 寸法 ‏ : ‎ 22.23 x 1.91 x 28.58 cm
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5つ星のうち5.0 Outstanding!
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This facsimile of the oldest known Fechtbuch, I.33, is beautifully presented, with a detailed introduction by one of the leading scholars of medieval martial arts, Jeffrey Forgeng. The manuscript itself is presented in true-scale, with latin transcription and English translation, which gives one the impression of reading the original manuscript, while making it accessible in modern language. Worth every penny for a student of medieval sword-and-buckler combat!
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The book is a real wonder, unfortunately the packaging is rubbish, they introduce the book directly without any protection or padding in an Amazon box, as a result, any blow to the box is irreparable damage to the book, regrettable.
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The book is a real wonder, unfortunately the packaging is rubbish, they introduce the book directly without any protection or padding in an Amazon box, as a result, any blow to the box is irreparable damage to the book, regrettable.
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MartialMartian
5つ星のうち5.0 SUPERB! Nothing could make it better!
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Awesome, this is done as perfect as a translation can be done! Jeffrey Forgeng really did everything right here.
-the original manuscript; in high quality on one side
-the translation; with the original Latin & German in red, then the English translation under on the other page
Since the translation also includes the original text in red right before the translation this makes it even better, as the original text is not that easy to read in the original manuscript. Thus you are in no doubt as to what, in Latin/German the translation is based on either.

The book is therefore very beautiful as well as perfect for the HEMA practitioner, and for anyone interested in the oldest European fight book / treatise we have.

As a HEMA enthusiast I’ll add the following, which is about I.33 not the translation;
-learning sword & buckler from I.33 is not very beginner friendly. Some concepts are easy to understand, some require you to know some fencing before hand.
-f.ex; I.33 doesn’t go into stance and footwork, or even detail different custodia (positions) or obsessio much.
-I.33 seems to be a concerned with how to “beat the ordinary combatant”, and describes what the ordinary combatant will do, and what the Priest does, (and so should you).
-I.33 seems to be self defense for the un armoured fighter, and it is best optimized for swords that are a little more tip heavy than what we often use in HEMA. Binding is really emphasized, which is different from f.ex the Bolognese tradition 2-300 years later, where you’d probably use a little longer, slimmer sword with more hand protection.

Yet while some concepts are for the more advanced, even the new fencer should have I.33 if you do sword and buckler. What isn’t clear now, will be in time, and you can then compare what you’ve found to work now, with what they do here. Just don’t expect I.33 to be a clear introduction to sword and buckler.

-the translation doesn’t include any advice on how to fence. There’s an intro about the text and history, but this is only the treatise. If you train HEMA, you might want a companion book to this one.

And a last word about this translation;
It’s so good, and so beautiful, that if there’s one treatise I were to show any friends, it would be this one.
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MartialMartian
5つ星のうち5.0 SUPERB! Nothing could make it better!
2020年1月3日に英国でレビュー済み
Awesome, this is done as perfect as a translation can be done! Jeffrey Forgeng really did everything right here.
-the original manuscript; in high quality on one side
-the translation; with the original Latin & German in red, then the English translation under on the other page
Since the translation also includes the original text in red right before the translation this makes it even better, as the original text is not that easy to read in the original manuscript. Thus you are in no doubt as to what, in Latin/German the translation is based on either.

The book is therefore very beautiful as well as perfect for the HEMA practitioner, and for anyone interested in the oldest European fight book / treatise we have.

As a HEMA enthusiast I’ll add the following, which is about I.33 not the translation;
-learning sword & buckler from I.33 is not very beginner friendly. Some concepts are easy to understand, some require you to know some fencing before hand.
-f.ex; I.33 doesn’t go into stance and footwork, or even detail different custodia (positions) or obsessio much.
-I.33 seems to be a concerned with how to “beat the ordinary combatant”, and describes what the ordinary combatant will do, and what the Priest does, (and so should you).
-I.33 seems to be self defense for the un armoured fighter, and it is best optimized for swords that are a little more tip heavy than what we often use in HEMA. Binding is really emphasized, which is different from f.ex the Bolognese tradition 2-300 years later, where you’d probably use a little longer, slimmer sword with more hand protection.

Yet while some concepts are for the more advanced, even the new fencer should have I.33 if you do sword and buckler. What isn’t clear now, will be in time, and you can then compare what you’ve found to work now, with what they do here. Just don’t expect I.33 to be a clear introduction to sword and buckler.

-the translation doesn’t include any advice on how to fence. There’s an intro about the text and history, but this is only the treatise. If you train HEMA, you might want a companion book to this one.

And a last word about this translation;
It’s so good, and so beautiful, that if there’s one treatise I were to show any friends, it would be this one.
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5つ星のうち5.0 I33 en couleur.
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Bel ouvrage pour un didacticiel de combat mythique. Reçu rapidement avec protection du livre.
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J.T.
5つ星のうち5.0 An irreplaceable resource.
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I had been looking for this book for over 10 years. Back when I first found out about it I didn't have the means to acquire it, and when I finally did I found it was out of print. I looked everywhere for it and found nothing. It seems whoever owns a copy is absolutely unwilling to part with it, and I can see why. Did a search here on a whim one day and it popped up available, so I bought it without even looking at the price. It didn't matter: I had to have it.

This book is a no-nonsense translation from the original manuscript. The author transcribes the manuscript in the original Latin/German and provides a line-by-line, side-by-side translation into modern English. The text is also oriented to match the plate, making it easy to follow. The plates are very high-resolution, easy to see, and quite colorful. It is important to note that the author does not interject any assumption or interpretation into the translation other than what is required to complete words missing letters caused by holes in the manuscript. The author does not attempt to interpret the manuscript in any form as an instructional manual. That is left to the companion book Medieval Sword and Shield: The Combat System of Royal Armouries MS I.33 , by Paul Wagner and Stephen Hand, which is worth buying on it's own merit.

When I received my copy (Oct. 2013) it came with a a few pages from the author detailing additional scholarship on the manuscript since the book was original published and are quite pleasing to have.

The additional sheets also directed scholars, practitioners and readers to the new edition of this translation:  The Illuminated Fightbook: Royal Armouries Manuscript I.33 . Unfortunately that book was only printed in limited numbers, and is listed on Amazon as out of print. The Royal Armouries may yet have copies, but the cheapest is still extraordinarily expensive.

I count myself lucky to have found this copy when I did. If I had time to grab one book to save from my burning home, it'd be this one. It is, quite literally, irreplaceable.
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